What is the significance of the Golden City?

There are certain energy lines flowing on the earth called grid lines. These are like latitudes and longitudes. These grid lines can be measured by a special instrument known as the Laker antenna. We have done a lot of work on this and have found out that if your chakras rotate at 33 times per second, then you become enlightened. We have also discovered that by making the grid lines vibrate, we can make the chakras rotate at that particular speed.

After scanning a number of places, we have discovered this place- the Golden City and some of the major gridlines are surfacing from this place. It is here that we are building the temple. This structure can hold 8000 people. When 8000 people will start meditating continuously in turn, (?) the grid lines will start vibrating not just in G.C but across the globe, as the energies will rise due to the power generated by meditation. These grid lines will in turn affect the chakras taking you into different states.

And also the Golden City, otherwise called as Global city, is constructed totally according to the Vaastu that was revealed by me. This would enable me to hold the auspicious energies and negate the negative energies, so that it becomes easy for me to increase my grace thousand folds as the energy level of a place is very essential for grace to come.

So let us say you are in Beijing and the vibrations are set in motion here, in Beijing you will start getting experiences and then whatever should happen will start happening. Then, whether you like it or not you will become enlightened. So, to make this happen we are building the Golden City. I want all of you to come and meditate there once it is completed.

What is the significance of the year 2012?

OK. Most of you know that the earth has got a magnetic field. As the earth’s molten core is rotating; the magnetic field is created. The thought sphere of the human mind is located in the earth’s magnetic field. This magnetic field has been weakening dramatically over last ten years.

Now, in physics there is a parameter called “Schumann’s Resonance”. Using that we can determine the strength of the earth’s magnetic field. While for many centuries, it was constant around 7.80 cycles per second, during the last 7-8 years, it has risen to 11 cycles per second and is continuing to increase dramatically. If you work it out mathematically, it appears that, by the year 2012, the "Schumann’s Resonance" is likely to be 13 cycles per second. When this resonance is 13 cycles per second, the earth’s core would stop rotating with magnetic field gone, you mind is gone. When I say "your mind", what I mean is your " samskaras". The pressure of the past 11.000 years of samskaras will vanish.

In the Dharma, we also say, “ Mind is Karma”. All actions start from your mind. The mind is nothing but a storehouse of samskaras or past life vasanas from which all action emanates. This is stored in the earth’s magnetic field. So in the year 2012, it will become zero for a few days. After that the core will start rotating again. This would be a fresh beginning for man or the dawn of the Golden Age. This is the significance of the year 2012. How do we know, it will happen? The study of fossil records has shown that, it happens roughly after 11,000 years. It’s only a short time away and then we can all start afresh. That is why I want you to become enlightened by 2012. If you are enlightened, with all your samskaras gone, we can begin a new yuga, which can be called Sathya Yuga or the Golden Age. Man will enter into a new state of altered consciousness.

As I told you already, the earth’s resonance is increasing which means the earth’s heart is undergoing a transformation. The earth has got a physical body, like you have a body. It has got a consciousness as well. Now as the resonance is increasing the earths heart functioning very differently from before. Now, your heart and the earth’s heart are connected. The earth’s heart can be influenced by your heart and vice versa. That is why, it is essential that your heart- beat synchronises with the earth’s resonance. This means your heart must flower. Your heart will flower when you discover love in your relationships.

If you have discovered love, you must stop judging your parents, spouses, etc., internally. Nobody can be judged as the whole universe directly influences all events, even the behaviour of the people.

So learn to experience life. Life has to be experienced, be it pain or pleasure.

Are you the Kalki Avatar?

You must be very clear that I have never claimed to be Kalki. In the beginning when the retreats were at Somamangalam (a place where retreats were conducted in the initial stages of the movement) a lot of people began to have visions, they began calling me Kalki. The word Kalki is just a title given by people to me. And I have come to accept the title.

But Avatar, yes. I claim to be an Avatar. The Hindu scriptures are very clear as to who an Avatar is. You see, basically, it is like this: GOD per say can never be comprehended, can never be related to, other than through the manifestations. Let us take the case of light as an example. We will go into a little bit of science. Suppose, a light ray was to pass through a vacuum tube, you are not going to see the light at all. So light as such cannot be seen. But, if that light were to strike an object and come back to you, you see that object. Now, the question is, are you seeing that object or are you seeing the light. The photons do hit the object and they come back into your eyes, therefore we can say you are seeing light, you can also say you are seeing only the object. There is an ambience here. So, what stand can you take here? You really cannot take a stand. You can say, “ I am seeing light, yet I am not seeing light”. The same approach applies to the understanding of an Avatar. When you are looking at an Avatar, you can say, “ I am seeing GOD; yet I am not seeing GOD”. Both are equally true. Like without light, you are not going to see anything at all, yet light itself cannot be seen.

Therefore, we maintain that only Avatars are the nearest you can get to God or whatever you want to call it. Let us take another example. You can never know or perceive electricity itself. What you can comprehend are its manifestations, for example, the tube light is the light manifestation of electricity, a fan is the mechanical manifestation of the same electricity, the iron box is the heat manifestation.

Similarly, what you call GOD has over a thousand aspects. A few of them can manifest in an individual. For instance, Ramanujam is a mathematics manifestation of the Supreme consciousness. He can out beat the fastest computer effortlessly. He had the Antaryamin of a Goddess called “Namagiri”. That is why, even today, he has not been fully understood. You take Einstein; he never studied Physics and mathematics. He simply knew what was space and time. Only later, came the mathematical formulations. He was basically a mystic. So, one can call him an Avatar for physics. If you take Karl Jung, he is an Avatar for psychology. Thyagaraja – an Avatar for music, similarly Beethoven in the west. So, people who manifest certain aspects of the Divine and Supreme consciousness is called Avatara Purusha.

So, I am a Spiritual Avatar. The experiences, miracles and grace people have experienced across the globe are proof of that. From my miracles and grace one can understand what kind of an Avatar I am. My thirst is mostly on Enlightenment.

This is my area of specialisation, though; I can fulfil your desires and solve your problems. My vision and purpose is the enlightenment of mankind. In that sense, I’m an Avatar, but not the mythological Kalki Avatar. I am not going to be riding on a horse with a sword as they say he will come after 140,000 years.

What is the difference between Science and Spirituality?

Basically and fundamentally there is not much of a difference between Science and Spirituality. Both are in search of the truth, the truth about oneself and the truth about the nature of this universe. The methodology that they employ is different but the issue is the same. Science employs observation and experimentation through the medium of the external world whereas spirituality does it through the inner world.

For example, in order to know the anatomy of the body, one has to dissect the body and observe it. But the same anatomy can also be known mystically by doing dhyana on the Vishuddhi Chakra (throat chakra). Similarly, one can study dhyana on Ajneya Chakra (third eye chakra), which otherwise you would need instruments to know.

According to quantum physics everything in this universe is a particle, which appears as a wave, and if you go still further it is a field. Spirituality also arrives at the same discovery that everything at the core is Consciousness and Consciousness manifests as the Universe.

In the contemporary world, the scientists and spiritualists are working together. Today, they have even invented an instrument that can show a spirit as it is leaving a person’s body.

So ultimately we can conclude that science and spirituality are just two sides of the same coin.

Will karma not end at any point of time? I have been told that even an enlightened person has karma?

We do not speak of your karma or her karma. There is no individual karma at all. There is only human karma. Now Ramana Maharishi had cancer. So did Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. Others had other problems. You cannot become free of karma totally because it is not your karma and moreover there is no you at all in the first place.

I told you the “ Self” is only an illusion, it can just disappear. So how could there be your karma?

Now, often you find that you are being distracted by various thoughts. Just like we breathe in oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide; we breathe in thoughts and we breathe out thoughts. There is the thought sphere, which contains all the thoughts of people who have lived from last eleven thousand years. All their experiences, ideas, views etc. are stored here. This is called Human karma. This human Karma is flowing through you. Like for example, you are living in the city of Chennai that is polluted; you have to breathe in that polluted air. You cannot escape it or be free of it. So, it is this Man’s karma that is influencing you all the time.

But then can man be free of all the present karma accumulated in all these thousands of years? Yes, it is possible!

Now, where do you think the thought sphere is stored? These thoughts are stored in the earth’s magnetic field. Whatever has happened the last eleven thousand years is stored here. I told you about Schumann’s resonance ( earth’s heartbeat) which used to be 7.8 cycles per second and has now become 11 seconds per second and if you work mathematically, in the year 2012 it is going to be 13 cycles per second and, When this happens the earth’s magnetic field would vanish or become very, very weak for about three days.

Now, we have the earth’s core which is rotating and that is responsible for the magnetic field. The earth itself is passing through what is called photon belt, which is what is slowing it down. So, it will slow down and probably come to zero when the earth’s resonance is 13 cycles per second and then it would start rotating again, but in the opposite direction.

Has this happened before? Yes, we have plenty of fossil evidence to show that this has happened almost every eleven thousand years. And more so, almost all the ancient scriptures of the world from India to Tibet, China to South America to Central America all speak of this phenomenon.

Now, suppose, you are programming a computer and there is a power failure, the entire program is deleted. That is why you have the uninterrupted power supply, the U.P.S. Just the same way, when the earth’s resonance reaches 13 cycles per second there is some kind of power failure and the magnetic field vanishes and when the magnetic field vanishes the thoughts stored there also would vanish. With all that, all the records of eleven thousand years go away. When this happens, man would become free of karma.

This has happened many times and there are scriptures that speak about this. But now even if you are enlightened, you are not going to be free of karma. Even Ramana or you must breathe the same air. The only difference is Ramana doesn’t suffer psychologically as his “ self” has dissolved.

But, for the karma to dissolve completely and not come back, a minimum of 64,000 people must have become enlightened by 2012. It is only then a new world would emerge. That is why all of you have to prepare yourselves for mukti as quickly as possible. It is very important.

Some people say nothing is perfect, does this apply to the creation of the Universe also?

It all depends upon how you view things. You can say a glass is half full or half empty. You can either say nothing is perfect or you can say everything is perfect. So, through this Yagna, when you really know what it is to SEE, everything will be perfect for you. Perfection or imperfection is only in your thought. As long as thought is controlling your life, there will be oppo sites – perfect and imperfect, good and bad, right and wrong. Because, thought itself, is divisive in nature.

The structure of thought is to compare. Without comparison, there cannot be thought at all. Your mind is unable to let go of thought, and thought is only memory and if you study the nature of memory, you’ll find, it is not only association, but comparison also is involved. It always postulates the opposites.

So, in thought, the trouble is that the opposites always exist. Only when you transcend thought will you be able to experience everything as it is. That is what this course ( Ananda Yagna/ Mukti 3) is all about. As you go deep into the yagna, possibly many of you will get into these states. Then, you use thought when necessary. Otherwise there is no thought. When thought is not required there is no division and hence no conflict. There is just direct perception. Then everything is fine as it is.

Many traditions, including Buddhism and Hinduism, says one should not have desires; you should be content with what you have, desires are the root of suffering, have very little desires and only then you will be happy etc. You say to enjoy life fully, the pleasures as well as pain. There seems to be a contradiction here, could you please explain?

Yes! Now who put the desire in you? As far as I am concerned it is nature, God or whatever you want to call it. That only is responsible for having put the desire into you.

You did not have yourself conceived! You were conceived, all things were put into you, you were brought up in the womb. You did not design yourself. So how can you be held responsible?

The desire is what I call swadharma. It is there and I don’t see anything wrong with desire. The Buddha himself did not say “Be free of desire”. He said, “Be free of craving”. The unfortunate English translation from Pali made it into ‘ desire’. The Buddha had normal desires but was free from craving.

Say you want to have a good house, car, go for a good drive… marry a wonderful man or woman… what’s wrong whit that? I don’t see anything wrong in desire, as long it doesn’t hurt anyone. But if it causes pain to somebody, then the society has the right to punish you. People sometimes come and ask me about marrying a person. I first ask them to tell me if there are any negative consequence, if there aren’t any, I bless them. After sometime you automatically grow beyond all this. Don’t you see with normal food also, after sometime you get satiated? How many desires can you have? How long will you go on with your desires? At some point it finally becomes a desire for freedom or liberation.

How can we talk about all this with someone who is hungry and wants food? I can’t tell them, ’come, I’ll give you mukti and moksha!!!’. That is why we do annadhanam, I bless them to fulfil their desires, do samskarashuddi that changes their thinking patterns which would affect in the external world.

To me Dharma is something that is coming very naturally to you. It’s like the river automatically flowing to the ocean. Of course if your desire is out of comparison, jealousy or hatred, then it causes pain to others and you. So, there’s noting wrong in having desires. On the other hand, do you think it is easy to suppress your desires? No! For many people who come to samskarashuddhi, we find that the problems they face are because they have suppressed their desires. Like a couple have a bad relationship, we find out it is because he wanted to work with computers but has become a doctor as his father wanted. This suppression continues through out your life, spoiling your relationships etc. It will produce all kinds of problems, like violence etc…

Though some people attack me ‘why do you tell people to ask for desires?’ My thing is if I am going to help you in your desires you are also going to be enlightened next. I see very often failures telling that they are contented with what they have. What kind of contentment is that? Just because you have failed you built up a theory of contentment. According to me everyone can succeed in their own capacities. If someone is a failure that means something is seriously wrong. And this can be set right through samskarashuddi where I give Grace to change the script of the person. Buddha said, “Be a light onto oneself”. But I tell, you require grace in life and things have to be given to you including enlightenment. You cannot make it on your own. To understand this it has to be directly experienced. I say that anything must be tested. I don’t believe just like that. That’s why you find atheists and communists in this movement. If we were to talk about a God or something, we would not like to give it to you as a belief. You have to discover that there is a God, which means you must be able to talk to him and he must be able to talk to you. Otherwise how would you expect a rational person to believe in God? Belief is not through induction, it must be a living experience. That’s why in this dharma we say, the days of belief has gone. Now, it’s the age of discovery. Belief is a terrible burden on the mind. Man has lost touch with the inner core and Amma and I are here to put Man back in touch with Her/His Higher sacred self.

Why does the mind always go towards negative thoughts and negative things?

You live in a world where the whole system is so structured. See, your negative thoughts are not your thoughts. That’s the fundamental teaching of the Dharma. So, like in TV depending on the channel you are switching on, you attract certain programs.

In this thought sphere there are also both negative and positive programs. Depending on the way your chakras are aligned, you start attracting negative thoughts. If the channel is changed, you start attracting positive thoughts. So, you are not really responsible for that, as you tend to blame your self. As I told you, you are like a robot, a computer. You are being programmed continuously from the thought sphere or the earth’s magnetic field. So, if you do certain kind of dhyanas (practices), we can realign the chakras, whereby it will automatically turn into positive thoughts.

One terrible thing is the media of today. In the newspaper and magazines they must also publish positive things. But everywhere they talk only about accidents, murder, looting, cheating. The whole thing is negative. As these inputs are going into you, the chakras acquire a specific kind of alignment. Thereafter you start turning only to the negative things in the thought sphere. That is the problem with our society. You must talk more positive things. You must have newspapers where there will be separate pages only for positive things or TV channels where they will be allotted only for positive news. If that goes on, the chakras will be realigned. That’s why you must speak positively to children and not allow them to see all kinds of TV programs, newspapers and magazines. Because that is a part of the problem.

Negative thoughts are one of the problems we are facing. How to come out of it and how to come out of the sensual pleasures seeking of the mind and how to focus the mind?

You should have noticed very often that you have no control over your thoughts. Thoughts seem to be simply flowing into you and taking control of you. You’ll sometimes find strange thoughts, which you do not like, flowing into you. If you would investigate, you will see that they are actually not your thoughts. That’s why, one of the fundamental teachings of the Dharma is “Your thoughts are not your thoughts”. Just as you breathe in and breathe out air, from the atmosphere, similarly we breathe in thoughts and breathe out thoughts from what could be called the “thoughts sphere”. So, we generally take in thoughts through the Ajneya chakra (third eye chakra) and then we also broadcast thoughts from the back of your head from a spot called the bindu. So we receive as well as we transmit and the thoughts sphere is thousands of years old where all the memories of all human beings who have lived for the past several thousands of years, not millions of years but probably eleven to twelve thousand years. The thoughts are stored there and these thoughts flow through you. They are not exactly your thoughts, they are the thoughts of the whole of humanity that has lived from the past 11 or 12 thousand years and they continue to flow through you and that influences you.

Now what kind of thoughts flow through you depends upon how your chakras are aligned. Like if you have a TV set, if you change the channel, you get a different program. So, these chakras when aligned in a particular way they form an antenna, which sucks in these thought from the thought sphere.

Now, if it is wrongly tuned in, you are likely to get a lot of negative thoughts. If it is properly tuned you might get positive thoughts or you could get a mixture of both. Vastu for example, the house in which you live will directly affect your chakras from which you start receiving certain kinds of thoughts. So, in case you are getting too many negative thoughts, you might have to check the vastu of your house and then you have to do chakra dhyana and get them properly aligned. Then, from the thought sphere you will get more positive thoughts and if more positive thoughts come in, the mind will become more focussed. Negative thoughts have a tendency of keeping the mind unfocussed. Positive thoughts help the mind to be focussed and to get these positive thoughts you must have your chakras properly aligned. So, one of the things we will be doing for you in the yajnas is to help you to have your chakras aligned properly.

Nobody in this world is free of sufferings. To be free from sufferings what should be done?

That’s very simple. Please follow seven truths to be free from suffering:

  1. Everything comes from a single source. It could be God or Energy. There is no beginning and end to life.
  2. If you identify this source, you’ll not differentiate between good, bad, right or wrong. All these things are our views. Everything came from one source.
  3. Life is nothing but your search for ‘ Self’. In your life, things that happen to you, people you see, everything reflects your ‘ Self’. If you are suffering from poverty, it means there is something wrong within yourself. You have to correct this to get out of poverty. If you have hatred, then who ever you see will exhibit the same quality. If you have evil thoughts, people you meet will also have evil thoughts. Try to understand yourself first.
  4. Realize that anything you experience in this Life is by God’s grace. Supposing you slip while walking, try to realize that as God’s grace too. If you see God in everything, your life will become wonderful.
  5. Realize that anything you experience in this Life is just a ‘test’ for you by God. It is not a bad experience. If it is considered as a bad experience then it would mean that God is not compassionate. If you experience a problem, consider it an opportunity for you to face it and come out of it. You’ve been given people, wealth and confidence to face challenges. If you understand this, your confidence will improve. Just to test your confidence God gives you a test.
  6. If you realize that anything you experience is a test for you by God, then you’ll be able to think deep about the problem and handle it in a better way. You’ll understand its result. Then you’ll have no fear.
  7. If you understand the above 6 truths, then there will be an enormous transformation in your body. From then on, you’ll not only have compassion, but you’ll become that ‘ compassion’.


If you follow these, your relationships would improve. It’ll be filled with love. If you attain this stage you are ready for the ‘operation’ I mentioned. You’ll experience the divine grace experienced by saints like Ramana, Adishankara. You’ll have no fear or sorrow. You’ll have only Joy. Don’t try to analyse this logically. Our aim is Mukthi. If you follow these truths for even 21 days, you’ll be joyful. The problem with us is we spread just the sorrow and sufferings. That’s why Earth is dying. After you experience Joy and Happiness you’ll be able to spread only Joy and Happiness to others.

By becoming aware of the doubts, can we remove those doubts?

You can to a large extent but still the brain will again jump into that mode. For that you must have control over these three energies. Suppose your house has got a north east cut, then the blaming mode will be highly activated. The north-east cut will activate the manipura chakra in a particular way and the brain will always be blaming. So, the house vastu is also equally important. Chakra dhyana is very important . Otherwise there is absolutely no control. Your mind is taking you for a ride.

To do Chakra Dhyana you should be at least twelve years of age. Pranayama can be taught, but not pranakriyas. Ajneya chakra dhyana can be taught to children.

One of the fundamental teachings of the Dharma is to set right relationships. Exactly how can we improve or set right our relationships?

It is essential for you to first understand that “ Life is relationships”. Now coming to your question how to improve relationships? The problem of relationships cannot be solved through psychology. All effort to understand the other person completely can never help. It is like peeling an onion. As you go on peeling an onion nothing remains. Say, you are eating khova (a south Indian sweet dish), you don’t try to understand, but just experience the eating of khova. In the same way, you need to experience the other person just as he or she is.

A husband trying to analyse or understand his wife will take him nowhere. “Analysis leads to paralysis”. Everybody is constantly trying to understand, analyse, judge others while struggling to change the other person. Unfortunately, people fail to realize that this is impossible as all of you are like computers who have been programmed and hence have no free will of your own. Your past lives, birth traumas, childhood, education, culture and all your conditionings are in possession of you and your lives. Your life flows according to this program.

So, when you are trying to understand and change the other person; it is only one program trying to alter another program. This game goes on from birth to death. Supposing you are going to a movie everyday, hoping that there will be a new ending, a new climax. Will it really change? All of you are trying to change each other in the same way!

What you need to do is experience the other person fully.

When the husband returns home to find his wife screaming; he must experience her like watching a movie or drinking a glass of juice. What happened? Why it happened? Why is her nature that way cannot be really known. Remember, it is like peeling an onion.

If you experience – life becomes Joy!

It does not matter what the event is. You have to only experience the program. Stop judging and being critical. When you experience the other person, you would know exactly how to respond.

Abraham Lincoln was shot. Who is to be blamed? The person who shot him, the person who made the gun, or the person who invented it or somebody else. No person can really be blamed, for, a situation is dependent on so many factors. It is not possible to pinpoint a single reason. If you look at The Bible, it also tells us “ Judge not least ye be judged”.

Unless something happens to the program itself, say through Grace, nothing can change. If the wife screams, experience it… is it possible? Thousands have done it. It is simple and practical. If you experience people, your heart flowers and synchronises with Earth’s heartbeat. My Grace flows and your problems would be solved.

If you don’t set right your relationships, I really cannot help you to the extent I want to help you. So start experiencing people and events.

What is the Antaryamin and how does the Antaryamin awaken in us?

We often use the word God, but God means different things to different people. But actually we can define God as your higher sacred self, higher intelligence, or higher consciousness.

Sometimes you might have seen hundreds of birds flying like one bird. Have you seen this? So, actually you can know that the whole group has got a single consciousness, but the individual bird will follow the consciousness of the whole pack. Sometimes you will find one or two birds dropping out and again they get back to the main flock. If we say that the individual bird is you, then that full total bird consisting of all birds is the Antaryamin. It can be called God or higher intelligence etc. So when we say you have the Antaryamin or that Antaryamin is awakened , what it means is you are the part, are in touch with the whole. In the flock of birds, if one bird drops out of the group, two or three birds come out and help that bird to go and join back. Only then the whole thing can function. So as long as the small bird is following the big pack, you can say the small bird is following the will of the group or the pack. So if you have the Antaryamin and can talk with Him, then, ‘You’, the part is following the will of the whole or the Divine will. So it is not enough if you are willing to follow the Divine will, you must know what the Divine will is, what the will is of the higher consciousness, without which you are like a bird fallen of the pack.

You are in fact an orphan. The Antaryamin is the Whole, and to have the Antaryamin means you are in touch with the whole. The whole of human consciousness put together is more than the individual’s consciousness. It is not 1 + 1 = 2 but it is 1 +1 = 4. That is what is “Synergetic emergence”. Hydrogen and oxygen fuse to form water, whose properties are totally and fundamentally different from hydrogen and oxygen. This emerging consciousness is called God or Cosmic consciousness. And this cosmic consciousness is what is the Antaryamin.

The Antaryamin is you inner guide and your supreme friend who can guide you and protect you. Today many a time you are in conflict. What is right and wrong? what is good and bad? You unable to decide this. Even when you decide, many times you regret your decisions. But when the Antaryamin is awakened, you will exactly know how to respond to every situation of life. At every step you will have someone to guide you, on whom you can trust and who accepts you exactly as you are. And also when you have the Antaryamin, enlightenment is very easy.

So until now we have seen what is the Antaryamin and why do you need an Antaryamin. Now I will tell you how the awakening of the Antaryamin actually happens. Basically in our society, the kind of schooling, education and life style one has, you are not allowed to experience and express your emotions. You are quite suppressed. That is why some have difficulty in getting in touch with their Antaryamin. So once you have got in touch with your suppressed emotions and if you invite the Antaryamin with your whole heart, it will awaken in you in the way it chooses or in the form you desire. To have the Antaryamin is the natural state of Man, it is your birthright; it is just like breathing or digesting. In the Ancient days everybody was in touch with their Antaryamin. There were tribes in Africa a hundred years ago, who where in direct communion with their Antaryamin. They lived a wonderful life. All that you must do is, from your heart, with emotion, with great feeling and with a bond, a liking, you must invite the Antaryamin and then it will awaken in you. It is not at all difficult. You think it is difficult and have all kinds of wrong perceptions. The Antaryamin is not bothered about what kind of a person you are. The Antaryamin is your friend and so doesn’t judge you or condemn you. All it wants is that you invite it with a feeling and a bond.

Bhagavan, could you please explain what is true Love?

OK. Before understanding what is true love let us know what is the current state of man. Today, basically most of you are beggars of love. You want others to show you love. You don't give love. What you think is love, is actually craving for love. That is why when people love each other it is actually that, "She needed his need for her, and He needed her need for him." Of course, you also give love. But what kind of a love is that? It is very conditional love. Suppose your husband takes care of you very well, you love him. If he drinks and ill-treats you and doesn't fulfil your expectations, do you love him? No. If your parents are very nice to you, you'll love them. Similarly if your children are very successful, you'll love them.

Sometimes when I meet some children's parents, whose son is in the US, a software engineer, they are thrilled about it. They refer to their own children as "AAP". But if he is a porter in the railway station or airport, they will use "TU" or some such word. So what is your love for your own child? That is why 2000 years ago Avvaiyaar said "Kondu Vandal tagappan"(i.e. Unless you succeed, your father doesn't care for you.) The son must succeed, only then the father respects him. Similarly, if the wife is very nice, very beautiful, the husband loves her. If she gets small pox or cancer and she is disfigured, there is embarrassment and discomfort. There are always thoughts like there is nothing more to life, there is fear of society and dissatisfaction. So what happened to that love? So this is conditional love.

There are yet other people who think they love, for e.g. some social workers. They feel they are compassionate and want to give up their lives for people. But what they don't understand is the so-called compassion and love they feel is coming out of a concept, conditioning and a trauma. These people can be called self-righteous people.

So where you are begging for love, that is not love. Where there is attachment and possession and making use of people that is not love. Love born of concepts and conditioning is not love. So, what you know is conditional love. You can see it in your own relationships.

But there is also a causeless love. There is no reason for causeless love, it is simply there. That is the love I am talking about. Only if you discover THAT love you can enter Sathyaloka. Otherwise you just cannot enter because your body frequency will not vibrate with Sathyaloka. So you should love your wife just because she's there. That's all. Not because she is beautiful or she is a rich man's daughter or that she cares for you or as a duty. It is spontaneous. That is causeless love. It is your true nature actually. It is not something to be acquired. You can never acquire anything. You can only be what you are. That is your real nature. Some of you would have experienced this love sporadically in your lives. But unfortunately the mind takes over. So if you discover this love, then the world will be a different world.

Bhagavan with your grace we will try our level best to discover this causeless love.

(Sri Bhagavan laughs) See, you cannot try to love, that will never happen. What do you know about love? All that you know is, you have jealousy, selfishness, anger, hatred, lack of love and therefore craving for love. That is the truth about you. You are not a Mahatma Gandhi, Surdas, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. You are only what you are. Isn't it? So all that you must do is, "become aware that you don't have love, love starts happening automatically. You have been trying to love, but where have you changed one bit? You are exactly where you were. So now stop trying to become, BE exactly what you are. See the terrible things in your heart. How when somebody comes to you, you smile and say hello sir welcome... but that is not the truth. Inside you are thinking, why did he come now? Actually you are putting on a nice mask. You have never faced the actual you, the truth. The truth has gone far behind. I do know devotees, they wear a mask even before Me and I also go along with them. (Bhagavan says this smilingly) Why should I take out their masks? That would be too painful for them. That mask is there because of the society, education, culture etc. People think that is the only way to survive. We cannot help it.

When people get married, there is joy in their relationship in the beginning. Slowly the mask (images) sets in the wife and the husband also develops the mask. And the mask begins to relate. The real person has withdrawn. There is no more joy in the relationship. That is how your hearts get closed.

So, all that we are telling you is ‘become aware of your games.’ Just do that. That's all. I am not asking you to be a saint or a sage. You are horrible people, terrible people, isn't it? (everybody laughs). Embrace that thing. 'Yes, I am horrible, I am terrible.' Love that. Love yourself and you'll see the great miracle happen. You will discover love.\


What should I do to discover causeless love and limitless joy?


One of the most important teachings of the dharma is that the content is not important. How you experience the Content that is important. What ever is happening in your life, you must learn the art of experiencing it. That is the true ‘art of living'. The true art of living is to experience fully, totally and completely whatever is going on.

So, mostly what is going on is human interactions, your friends, your relatives, your boss, your children and your family. You are all the time interacting with them because life is relationship. Without relationship you don't exist. So, in this relationship you are transacting some kind of interaction. You may get hurt, you may get provoked, and you may get back some memories, all these are happening.

Whatever is happening, if you can experience fully, as I was speaking earlier, then you will find there is limitless joy. Now, what happens when there is so much joy? It doesn't stop there. It becomes love. Only a happy and joyous person can truly love. An unhappy person cannot love. That love is nothing but attachment, possession…true love comes only when there is true joy and true joy comes only when you experience what ever is going on inside. It is not very difficult.

Practice this for 21 days, if you keep trying it will become natural. What is not natural, what is not easy, I don't teach. There is no point in teaching that. Only what you can do I am teaching. The brain must learn a new pattern of functioning. It takes 21 days for that. After 21 days of practice you will find it becomes easy. It becomes like alcoholic addiction or drug addiction. Why are you addicted? Because it gives you so much joy or happiness or freedom. Same thing happens here also. Only thing is there are no negative side effects. There are very good effects on the other hand. You discover love, compassion. All these things happen.

So basically you must start with pain. You hold that pain like you hold a newborn baby. So carefully you must hold that pain you must know that it is a blessing. You must hold it, you must not condemn or judge it and strangely you'll find it is very painful. It will become pain in the chest region but slowly you'll find, you'll discover a freedom, joy and that will become love. That is the way to get this causeless love and limitless joy.

If self is an illusion, who am I? What is my real existence?

You do not exist. That is the truth. That sense of “I and you”, the sense of separateness, is an illusion. It does not really exist. For example, as you are listening to me, you are seeing me but you are not hearing me, and when you hear me, you are not seeing me. But that is happening so fast, that you have this illusion that you are seeing and hearing. The two senses have got coordinated, like in a movie, unless you have those 16 shots moving per second, you will not see the hand movement in the movie theatre. If the projector is slowed down it becomes only like a slide show. Similarly, here the senses are coordinating at a particular speed whereby you are feeling that you are seeing, touching as though all these things are going on at the same time. It is this illusion that creates the sense of “Me”